So, mon petit, I have talked the whole time and we still haven't done anything - another day without working! (Mother laughs) It's a curious thing ... speaking evidently helps me follow the experience. But I can't just begin speaking all alone up in my room! And talking to a tape recorder is useless. Up to now, it certainly flows the best with you - by far. I haven't tried with others, although occasionally I've said something to Nolini, but his receptivity is fuzzy (I don't know whether you can understand this impression: it's as though my. words were going into cotton-wool). Once, as I told you, I spoke with R., and with him I felt that three quarters of it was absolutely lost - and as a matter of fact it was. But with you I begin to SEE, and the need to formulate makes me concentrate on my vision. And this I experience with you more than I ever have with anyone. So.... So you are bearing the consequences! page 103 - Mother's Agenda , volume - 2 , 25th Feb. - 1961 |
Has Andre-da. spoken to you about this? ... Neelakantha told him that you were the bridge between him and me (he even spoke in English): 'Oh, Satprem was the bridge.' (Mother smiles) And a second later he added, 'But now we don't need it anymore!' (Mother laughs merrily) I was much amused! page 326 - Mother's Agenda , volume - 2 , 10th Sep - 1961 |
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(Satprem complains of his difficulties in writing the book on Sri Aurobindo. He says in particular that he has a feeling of being 'blocked') I have asked Sri Aurobindo to help you. You know, we are surrounded by complications, but there is always a place where it all opens out simple and straight - this is a fact of my experience. You go around in circles, seeking, working at it, and you feel stuck; then something in the inner attitude gives way, and all of a sudden it opens out - quite simply. I have had this experience very often. So I have asked Sri Aurobindo to give it to you. And he says repeatedly, insistently: Be simple, be simple. Say simply what you feel. Be simple, be simple, insistently. These are only words, but as a matter of fact, when he spoke these words it was like a path of light opening up, and everything became very simple: 'Just take one step after another, that's all we have to do!' - that's how it seemed to me.page 329 - Mother's Agenda , volume - 2 , 16th Sep - 1961 |
If you could just give me a hint....(After a silence) Among those who have gone beyond the stage of needing successive reincarnations to develop their psychic beings, among those whose souls are conscious, fully developed, there are some who (what shall I say?) ... who are chosen or destined to participate in a certain terrestrial action. And in the process of reincarnation, there is always ... always some degree of confusion and disarray, you see. I can speak of my own case, if you like; despite every precaution, certain kinds of confusion couldn't be avoided ... and of course this complicated the work. It was the same for Sri Aurobindo. And all this confusion sometimes greatly disrupts the work. But there are a certain number of beings - not many - who have come back on earth ONLY to take part in a particular work, in a particular way. And outer things, personal and individual things, are virtually sacrificed to that. Certain faculties, for instance, whose source is the higher entity, faculties that in an ordinary life would result in a measure of power or fame or success or realization, are placed under conditions where their outer effect is subordinated to the needs of a particular work. Let me put it to you more clearly: your physical body, for example, should have been either stronger or more supple or endowed with certain very strong vital compensations, so that you wouldn't suffer from your working conditions.... Of course, for someone following a yogic ascent, whose soul is in the process of formation, the external conditions of life are normally what is best for inner development, whatever that may be - even if, on the surface, those conditions aren't good. So the only advice you can give such a person is, "Well, either renounce the spiritual life or else put up with it." But that's not your case. There is a Mission, a work, and a kind of gap between a certain physical formation and that Mission. So if you ask me plainly what I see, I can tell you plainly, instead of saying as I would to certain sadhaks or anyone sincerely wanting to do yoga, "Take it or leave it; you must learn to transform yourself inwardly to the point where you can master the body and its needs." I can't tell you that, because that's not how it is for you. I mean it may be - it may be - that even an inner transformation (a complete conversion of the vital being, for instance) wouldn't necessarily bring an improvement in your health. It is here where.... It's not something I see imperatively. And to go back to ordinary life would be the end of everything - of your physical life and your inner life too. page 165-66 - Mother's Agenda, volume 3, 27th May - 1962 |
Yet it may also be that up there in the mountains, all alone with the mountains, it would suddenly come. It is possible - everything is possible. There is nothing that doesn't hold a possibility of truth. Anyway, give me at least until Tuesday to look - I will tell you what I see. Au revoir, mon petit. page 169 - Mother's Agenda, volume 3, 27th May - 1962 |
(Mother then asks Satprem various questions about his japa, and, after a very long silence during which she seems to be elsewhere or "looking" into the distance, continues:) It is very interesting, mon petit.... As you were telling me about it, I automatically went into that state. And there was a kind of - how shall I put it? I don't know what to call it.... It is a movement akin to will, but it has nothing to do with thought, it's a feeling: I wanted to take you into the experience. And it was shown to me - literally shown - that your whole relationship with the inner and outer worlds is situated here (gesture above the head); that's why it is so well expressed through intellectual activity. But here (gesture to the solar plexus) there's not much. And I was seeing this, you know, I was touching it. It only comes indirectly, as a consequence. And then down here (gesture lower down): NOTHING. It remains just the way it was formed when you came down to earth!And here (umbilical region) I was shown that a sort of widening of the being is needed, a widening of the vibrations - a peace, a calm within the immensity. HERE - the prana, that is - is where there should be a widening into peace, peace, peace and calm. But within the immensity. And that's what will loosen you up. Here (gesture to the head and above) the work is done and will not be undone; there is no danger, the link is quite well established. All you have to do is this (Mother takes a breath) and there it is. To open here (gesture to the heart), the method is ... a bit too classical, in that you would inevitably fall back into classical learning, all the classical methods and means - it will happen by itself, quite naturally. And here (umbilical region): something like a quiet ease (there's no equivalent in French). A quiet ease. It has been all cramped up, and now it must widen. The inner life of the prana must be widened (the inner vital, the true vital, the being that has the experiences I told you about - the piece of glass, the glimpse of the sea); that's what must widen. And vast, vast.... It is all cramped up and it suffers. It has to be relaxed inwardly, by bringing in the Force, the Force of that new experience [April 13]: apply it there. And you ... simply let yourself go; if you could catch hold of the wave movement, that would be perfect. Like this: relax, relax, relax.... You're floating on an infinite undulating movement - floating, floating, floating. Shall we try? But don't get into a meditation posture! And don't tense up; just let yourself go, as if you simply wanted to rest - but not in an empty hole. To rest in a mass of infinite force ... a supple solidity. (meditation) A most luminous atmosphere.... page 174-75 - Mother's Agenda, volume 3, 29th May - 1962 |
Mon petit, you are the only person to whom I can say all this - there is not one, not one! Not one able to simply understand. Which makes things more difficult, because I am constantly weighed down by the stupidity of people's thoughts (stupidity in the sense of incomprehension), the thoughts of all those around me, who think I am ("I," what they call "I," you know, "me"), who think I am ill and ... I can't tell them a thing! If I hadn't spoken to you today, it would be gone. I would never have said anything. Well, that's the way it is. page 111 , Mother's Agenda , volume 4 , 6th April 1963 |
(Mother looks at Satprem for a long time) I saw a new thing in front of you.You were in a sort of golden light, rather solid, and then from here (the throat) down to here (the solar plexus), there were all the Tantric colors, you know, all the shades. I don't know if you have ever seen them: the Tantrics have an atmosphere with all the colors, not mixed together but side by side. It's a kind of "chart of powers," and according to the color they select and pick out, or use, it serves one purpose or another: one is for health, another for progress, another for understanding, and so forth. That chart was with you, and I saw your hand moving as if you were writing. I see those colors, I always see them in association with those who have practiced Tantrism. X always has them with him, and with his guru,[[ X's deceased guru, who several times appeared before Mother. ]] it's even much more, very strong and very intense. It was there in front of you, from there (the throat), that is to say the center of relationship with the world, down to here (the solar plexus). page 294 , Mother's Agenda , volume 4 , 21st Aug 1963 |
After a meditation with Satprem I again saw a square shape, like last time, in front of you, but this time it was different: there was a bright golden light, and that square shape was here (gesture between the throat and the solar plexus), in front of you, then it rose and rose and rose like that, slowly, very slowly, above your head, and there it spread out into a great light ... a very quiet light. I think it's the symbol of your meditation. A square - a perfect square, I mean, about this size, from there to there (from the top of the head to the solar plexus): that's you when you meditate. It's quite established, like something firmly established, and then slowly, very slowly, it rose and rose and rose above your head, and there ... not violently, of course, it didn't burst out, but it spread out into an Immensity of light. The symbol of your consciousness. It's always a square shape. Last time, I told you there were those Tantric lights; this time, there was a pale gold, very luminous, very tranquil, and the shape [of the square] was like a somewhat more golden vibration, a little darker (but not "dark"), and it stayed still a very long time, till suddenly I felt in your consciousness as if something were opening out, relaxing and opening out, like a sort of well-being in your consciousness. And no sooner did that happen than the square began to rise and rise and rise above your head, and there ... Is it the symbol of your meditation or the symbol of your consciousness? ... - The symbol of your consciousness. Did you feel, towards the middle of your meditation, a kind of sudden relaxing, an inner well-being? Yes, I felt it.Then that's it. As soon as you felt it, it started rising until ... as though it merged into an infinite. But it's good. page 299-300 , Mother's Agenda , volume 4 , 4th Sep. 1963 |
(About Satprem's mother, who has donated money to the Ashram:) Is it your money?No, she has given all her goods to her children and there is a part that was supposed to be for me, but it's hers, so it's just as well in your hands. She says she is "ventilating herself."But it's true, you know. It's a very spontaneously true feeling in the being: you feel increased by what you give. As long as I felt people were giving to me, as a person, there was a shrinking, but now there's an absolutely concrete sensation (Mother makes a circular motion going through her): it circulates, circulates.... So now, there is the joy of the thing, because it circulates, nothing remains. But she is sweet, your mother.... She is going to have the joy of her soul. You know, there is a joy in being more conscious of one's soul than of the material world - you may keep yourself busy, you may see clearly, you may understand, you may do what you have to do, all that remains, it's very fine, but, behind, there is ... a Light. A light, something warm, warm with a luminous, golden warmth. It's really the sense of immortality, of something that doesn't depend on a form or on circumstances. It's a consciousness in which one instantly has the feeling that there was no beginning, there is no end.... And a sort of very strong sweetness, very strong, behind everything. It takes you through life; even all the difficulties don't matter when you have caught hold of that. It's something very intimate, which expresses itself with difficulty, but which is like a support, something that holds you up always, in any circumstances. That's what your mother will have. She must be living it, maybe unknowingly; she must already have it a little, a beginning. But when one has it consciously, then ... then, in reality, circumstances don't matter much. And this money has arrived at a wonderfully appropriate time, as always! page 337-38 , Mother's Agenda , volume 6 , 25th Dec - 1965 |
(We venture to publish here a text written by Satprem on June 24, 1967, despite its daring or extreme predictions, for it may hold a grain of truth that time will reveal, and above all because it is obviously influenced by Mother's vision. The following is therefore not so much an exercise in prediction as food for thought.) THE END OF THE ASURA If, as Sri Aurobindo announced, the supramental Power is to enter a realizing phase in 1967 and if, as Mother said, the fate of the present civilization is to be settled in 1967, it is clear that the earth's many latent diseases must come out in the open and find a focus somewhere, as an abscess is the focal point for the disease of the body, our earth body. There are no "catastrophes." The Supramental is a force of order and harmony. So what may seem to us at first glance to be a catastrophe is bound to actually put things in order, work in every way and every detail towards putting the earth in order. September/October is generally the month of wars. There is but one place in the world where the issue is being played out really and symbolically - that is India. That is where, therefore, the disease of the earth must be focused. It is in the order of things that the last Asura should come and die at the feet of the Mother. But India, supposed to embody the forces of truth, is herself prey to the same Falsehood as is the rest of the earth. The Asura is also in India, perhaps more dangerous there as it is masked behind a veil of false truth. The awaited conflict will thus have to put the house of the Mother in order to begin with, at the same time as it will put the other houses of the earth in order. The devil will unmask himself and fall headlong into his own trap. India's Falsehood will necessarily attract like falsehoods: those of China and of Pakistan. The troubles on Bengal's borders are already preparing the way for China's aggression, and the falsehood of Tashkent has left the wound open in Kashmir. Here India shall receive the blessed blow that will liquidate her untrue government and will give way to a military government that will prepare a more truthful government. Here China shall receive the blow that will free her from her Maoist Asura, while at the same time bringing Russia and America closer together against the common danger. Here Vietnam will lose its two untrue henchmen, in the North and in the South, and will put its own house in order. Here Pakistan will have set its own trap by allying itself with China and will lose its rights over Bengal and the eastern part of India.[[ Bangladesh was born four years later, in December 1971. ]] Left only with its western unit, which cannot be economically self-sufficient, Pakistan will be obliged to form a confederation with India and to understand that its destiny is inseparable from that of India. Here a wiser Russia and a wiser America, and a frightened earth, will become aware that they too must form a confederation of the nations of the earth and that the fate of any one nation is inseparable from that of all the others. And order will be restored in the house. Man will be able to prepare himself for a vaster adventure. Ultimately, everyone commits the errors that will help towards the larger triumph of the Truth. Satprem |
You have before you, here (gesture at chest level), Sri Aurobindo's symbol. The descending triangle is of an almost white light, but with a golden hue, and the ascending part is of an intense dark violet - I don't know why.... The ascending triangle is dark violet (the color of vital power), an intense dark violet, very, very strong, and with the descending triangle, that makes Sri Aurobindo's symbol, here, in front of you, like that. It's not luminous, but not dark: it has a rich and very intense color, a very intense violet. The ascending triangle is the creation's aspiration; the descending triangle is the Divine's response. And the junction of the two makes the square of the manifestation. It was there, in front of you, very clearly written. page 66 , Mother's Agenda , volume 9 , 20th Feb - 1968 |
(Regarding the message Mother has given to Satprem for his birthday.) "Here are the Light and the Divine Love which are always with you on the path, every outcome of which is only the starting point for a new stage." It's precisely the experience I've had these last few days (yesterday, I think), just before writing the card. We always set an end to things - but there isn't any. There isn't any. The truth is, one rises like this (Mother draws a curve that reaches a point in space), but it's in order to go like this (gesture of a new curve rising higher from that point on), and again like this - for ever and ever.page 293 , Mother's Agenda , volume 9 , 30th Oct - 1968 |
You are ... (Mother holds Satprem's hands). I don't know if you are aware of it, but you are associated in all this work of transformation, like this (gesture of being carried along in the wake) ... as if you were fastened to it. (silence) But the work is taking place in a region beyond words.Yes.... For some time now I've been very much feeling your presence.Ahh! ... As for me, I always feel you're there, as though you were clinging to me, so each time something is accomplished, it is naturally passed on to you. (Laughing) Clinging like a child. Yes, I really feel it's the only solution. (long smiling silence while holding Satprem's hands) All depends ABSOLUTELY - absolutely and uniquely - on the divine Will. If He has decided we will be transformed, we will be transformed. I myself am powerless - there is no "I," it doesn't exist as this! (indicating her body) For those who cling to me, it's the same as clinging to the Divine, because ... (Mother smiles exquisitely). Ultimately, what happens is His will. page 189 - Mother's Agenda , volume 13 , 24th May - 1972-1973 |